“you digged their details for no reason” i cannot do anything with the fact you are a blind and not seeing a reasons in my article, that makes another reason to say all what you are saying is just because you are bootlicker of CrossTalk
we would publish this on our website, but we don’t have it ready yet. i think i know why it doesn’t open for you - i can see a russian flag in your profile, and if you are in Russia (same as me) you will have to turn on VPN to see it
Did you used Google Lens? because that’s the most commonly used app when it comes to such tasks
I just want to make my own personal statement as an individual often referenced in the document from Pavlosik. I’ve had some discussions about this and figured I should say something a little more publicly. I’m not sure if CrossTalk will be making their own statement on behalf of their group, but I’d like to say something for myself. My goal here is to explain some of the statements made in this document, and acknowledge certain wrongdoings mentioned in this document. Some of this stuff I’ve already said to people in private, but I think it deserves a public acknowledgement as well.
I’ll preface this with an announcement: I was effectively on hiatus for most of the past month (not just from CrossTalk, but pretty much every public community I’ve been involved in), and was preparing to make a full return in the days before this, hence my increased activity. I’ve made the personal decision to leave the CrossTalk team after careful consideration and it’s incredibly unlikely I will return to the OIC/revival community at all. Even besides this situation, I have been recently growing an increasing disdain for the general drama, attitude and immaturity of the OIC and it’s something I no longer wish to be involved in for the sake of my own mental health.
I was very seldom involved in the CrossTalk development and infrastructure process. I did some small amounts of planning, research, and made small commits to msn-pecan and the website and service. My most prevalent role at CrossTalk was in community management for the server, despite being a developer on paper. I am aiming for the cybersecurity industry, as stated in the document/my LinkedIn, and have put in lots of work and elbow grease to get there (via years of competitions, training, vulnerability research, etc.) I do not, and have never considered myself an expert in the industry by any means, simply someone with a reasonable level of competence and a desire to get better. The INS vulnerability was an embarrassment, in my opinion, but it was not something that I had introduced (it was probably there before I was, honestly lol.) I agree that we could’ve been more proactive, especially considering I had discovered a prior vulnerability in INS processing - but I digress.
Much of my reverse engineering work on Skype was done during the Escargot era - and oftentimes I mentally associated the Skype work with the deadlines and pressure of Escargot. For those of you who are unaware of the history, I started work on Skype as a small-scale, independent project, unrelated to Escargot, that eventually blew up to massive proportions when I was approached by Tony with the means of making it an Escargot project and it was announced in incredibly early stages. I would have liked to have worked on it in the background and made progress before going public (I am a major advocate for not announcing things until you have them in a good state - i.e. the downfall of half of all OIC projects), but being in the public light made it that much harder. I don’t see this as me “LARPing”, in my opinion - I put a solid amount of work into the reverse engineering of Skype, to the best extent I could, and some of my work continues to be used in other active Skype revival projects that are making significant progress. I was incredibly transparent as to when I couldn’t get things done - and a lot of this was exacerbated by family and mental health issues that many of the bystanders in CrossTalk never knew about (I kept a lot of the specifics of these issues to friend circles as they were deeply personal - and I’m still even working through some of the issues to this day, much of the reason my hiatus started to begin with.) My goal was never fame or recognition with the Skype project (if anything, the recognition was to my detriment and resulted in the project ultimately going abandoned). I wanted people to be able to use Skype again, as someone who had used it in the past - and I’m glad there are people working towards that goal, regardless of who it is.
I am not aware of the exact circumstances on the lawyer situation, but to the best of my knowledge Tommy actually stopped engaging with AOL’s lawyers at some point briefly after the initial discussions as he felt it was the wrong thing to do. I’m not sure siccing the lawyer on NINA was the best path to a “one up”, but (at least to me) it seems they were interested in NINA long before CrossTalk’s rise to fame/Tommy’s involvement, and Tommy pulled out of this whole ordeal fairly quickly.
The allegations about me creating/fabricating the message related to the CSAM allegations are entirely false - perhaps this is a misunderstanding of the situation. I was a former friend of the individual who sent this message (back in 2023), I will admit that much. They were part of a group I have deeply separated myself from. And, in fact, I went public multiple times after the expose document noting that the CSAM allegations were very murky and should not be stated as fact. I didn’t have to do that - I could’ve just left the situation as-is - but my commitment was to the truth at the time, not to shutting down Escargot. And, for the record, I honestly don’t even blame the allegations themselves for that whole part of the drama - it was how the allegations were handled by the admin team, which was a PR nightmare and I think that responsibility falls entirely on Escargot’s leadership. If it wasn’t the CSAM situation, I feel like it could’ve just as easily been anyone with a bit of time on their hands and a desire to cause trouble. It was an incredibly kneejerk reaction from the staff team and, in my opinion, a stupid one over a Discord report that was highly unlikely to actually result in any action taken.
Regarding Skymu: that blog post was made by me personally, not in my capacity as a CrossTalk admin. I will admit that my judgment was not correct in making that a public post. At the time, I had a concern my reports would not be taken seriously (likely because the conversation that led to the blogpost kinda turned into a dogpile) and that’s why I went public, and I recognize that was not the correct thing to do. OmegaAOL (the owner of Skymu) and I have made amends and are on good terms, and he has noted this himself in a public response since the document’s release.
To the others: The personal information that was posted is effectively public. I was an “open book” throughout much of CrossTalk’s history - perhaps to my detriment, but alas. This is not the first time someone in the CT community has stumbled upon my LinkedIn/other personal info, and I intentionally entwined my IRL and online identities (it was part of my innate trust for the community and the “home” I felt there.) There’s potentially a different conversation to be had about the ethics of the inclusion of this information in the document, but I don’t exactly care to get into that. I do not need (and do not condone/approve) any community or members thereof acting as my knight in shining armor to try and “defend” me from anyone - if anything, this reflects poorly on me and may only serve to increase tensions rather than reduce them.
I will add that I’m not making this statement to defend anyone or any side of this conversation in particular. I just want to make it clear from my perspective, since the document contains multiple allegations directly pointed at me. There are things I don’t like about the OIC as a whole, about Escargot, and yes, even about CrossTalk. All of those fall in different places, and some aren’t necessarily even the fault of staff, but I digress. If there’s anything I’m not, it’s a bootlicker or narcissist - I am more than willing to admit that I did things wrong, and I’m not gonna defend people at all costs (a large part of why I got involved in the Escargot expose in the first place.) I hold no ill will towards Escargot/NINA at this point. Hell, I don’t even hold ill will against Pavlosik or Skype Community, even after this whole situation. While there was some incorrect information in this document, there were also some valid criticisms made about my prior conduct, and I understand as much (even if they were resolved by the other parties involved already.)
Since people will likely wonder with my prior announcement: it is very likely I will publish all of my remaining work on Skype in the somewhat near future. Even if it’s not in the greatest shape and parts are incomplete, I believe the overall community would benefit from this and that it is the right thing to do as someone who is leaving this community. I do want to thank this community for the good times and friends it gave me, but for my own sake I wish to be no longer involved in the OIC.
EDIT: I also want to note that I have no desire to continue my involvement in this drama. This statement will very likely be the last you hear from me on this front.
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It was some time ago (like over a month or so) but as far as I remember this was done using Yandex/Google Image Search, yes
Thank you for the response, and I would like to reply to this, not as a continuation of the drama, but as an additional explanation overall from my end.
The work of person who states they are reverse engineer and security specialist - when they are coming to the project is to review the server code the project alredy has, it does not mean that it has to be a new code.
It is embrassment for security specialist not to detect such a trivial and simple vulnerability that is so critical.
LARPing and Larping have different meanings - while LARPing is Live-Action Role-Playing (that’s why the letters are capital), Larping - when someone is pretending to be something they’re not.
Though - by researching into your post on MG forums you were advertising and clearly starting to people you are working on the Skype project on the CrossTalk. IMO, if you wanted to stop the attention to that project, you would be probably against doing such posts on MG, and against of the thread about Skype being there in the CrossTalk, so the development of Skype was staying public in CrossTalk, without any enforcement from the Escargot. Though, I am aware of HIDEN enforcing you to work on the Skype project, so that might be not your decision. The only accusation in this case is by keeping people interested in the Skype project, but at the same time complaining about people asking for ETAs and about status all the time. That’s just obvious they would do that.
What I mean by larping in this case - you are making public posts on forums on this, making people “promised” about the project, while in fact
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The thing is - you definitely know the person and helped them to publish the originial thread, because otherwise there is no way they would achieve the screenshots of my personal DMs with you. That also corresponds to:
If you would be definitely against CSAM accusations - you would just go to the person who published the thread and would complain about this.
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Some user out of MG have said “it says right in the thread this is just a “potentially threatening to upload CSAM””, the thing is the thread wasn’t always in this state, it was edited:
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Long story short - no proper evidence was provided to them - only some screenshot from Discord with gossips - the CSAM allegations were initially ignored. Every court would tell you this is correct - no evidence = no accusations.
I have edited the article based on this information
This post is basically a nothing burger.
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Omg, software is buggy / bad. It’s open source and in development
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Omg. Stop calling me a pedo.
Maybe take a Time Machine back to your punk internet kid era and don’t use “a vm with csam in it” as a threat (also - no one actually accused you of directly being one” -
Omg, nina escargot lawyer.
Know facts before you talk. Yahoos lawyer was going after them with or without me. I only helped a little because we kept in contact after he came at RE-AOL.
Seems like a lot of nonsense to me
Tommy
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I feel like Epicness’ identity has no bearing to the argument you’re trying to make and as such is an unnecessary addition
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So now it’s normal for CrossTalk to have a vulnerability in its code that poses a threat to users’ personal data. Okay. Got you.
I am 17 years old and at that time I was 14-15 years old and I can’t be called a pedo at this age by definition.
Constantly mentioning this in CrossTalk and in fact helping the lawyers of your competitor project is already embrassing situation, as it was stated
you knew it was wrong thing to do, so you should not have engaged at all
I feel like it’s okay to be at least a little uncomfortable with how your meatspace ident is being dragged out, for next to nil reasoning. Just an opinion from someone who’s had to deal with rabid animals before.
You can’t really control large groups of people like that, and I do understand the dread that is happenstancing yourself into having people rally behind you for what’s typically considered reputational arson
If you read the reply a little more you’d probably understand that no one called you a pedophile nor would it make any logical sense to do so
Crosstalk disclosed the vulnerability. 
Your age doesn’t matter - you’re mad that you made that threat and it’s come back to bite your rep
Actually, it was the right thing to do because they hacked and closed AIM Phx discord.
Have a blessed day 
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So what? You actually did it then? Are you really going to justify such an act with “I’m just young so it doesn’t count”?
Is that really how I’m meant to be reading this?
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That’s not how you should read it before even reading the context from the article I released? I have made people aware tons times that I don’t even have any CSAM materials and have never made threats about uploading such anywhere.
Goto bed son. It’s late
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Uh . . . unless you can verify that these two embed images from Screenshot 15 of the original batch had nothing to do with you (which I imagine they were, as a fluid conversation consists of contextual pictograms and such), then this is a separately awkward conversation.
Unrelated, but this is my first time reading a long thread on MG and Damn I Hate Discourse (the software powering MG). It convolutes the whole experience in my opinion, I feel like I have a better “hold” on things when reading long threads with phpBB. It’s also far lighter than Discourse.
We can play this game together - I know you killed a person a year ago, try to prove me you’re not. But seems that you came here just to defend CrossTalk under all means and it doesn’t matter what to say, you will just keep saying your bs.
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Because people are completely not understanding what is the point of this message - you can literally accuse anyone of anything they haven’t done and say this, the same fact DFU is asking me to do. I have not accused him of killing someone, that’s just for example. We have a presumption of innocence.
literally what the hell are you on about
